Atonement Series

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28 Feb Why Did Jesus Die? | Romans and Wrath | Joshua Tongol

 

[The views shared in this video do not necessarily represent the views of the community]

 

In February 2013, Joshua Tongol was invited to speak to a community in New York. Aside from his preaching, he requested for intimate gatherings where people can discuss topics that are usually not brought up in the “church.”

 

For several days, in these gatherings, many questions came up. Nothing was too sacred to mention in these meetings. The purpose was to ask the “WHAT IF?” question and to also offer alternative explanations of certain ideas.

 

Whenever a “new” idea was proposed to the community, the question was asked, “IS IT POSSIBLE?” No one, including the speaker, claimed to have it all figured out. But all were invited to participate in the conversation.

 

Sadly, many religious fundamentalists (Christian and non-Christian) tend to be very dogmatic concerning certain theological doctrines. Yet there is much diversity among them. That being the case, IS IT OK TO QUESTION?

 

Questions to think about:

 

-What do you really believe?
-Why do you believe?
-Can your “truth” withstand scrutiny?
-Can you listen to a different opinion other than yours without being offended?
-Can you disagree with another person and still unite in love?
-Can you feel safe enough in a gathering to share your heart without having to feel judged or condemned?

 

Josh has always envisioned gatherings where people can come together–with all their differences–yet still unite in love.

 

As you watch these videos, try to have an open heart and mind. And no matter what you may have been taught about God and/or the Bible…don’t forget to THINK for yourself.

 

Bless you on your journey…

 

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10 May Was Jesus FORSAKEN by the Father? | Is God Too Holy to Look on Sin? | Joshua Tongol

 

Is God too holy too look on Sin?
Was Jesus forsaken by His Father on the Cross?

 

These are two of the building blocks that make up the evangelical penal substitutionary theory.

 

Why does it matter? How we understand the crucifixion shapes our understanding of who God is and what He is like. And ultimately, our understanding of God’s character also shapes our lives.

 

Problems with these ideas:

 

-Based upon a “legal” understanding of holiness and the gospel
-Distorts the unity within the Trinity
-Goes against common sense
-Creates a distorted view of an untrustworthy Father

 

Recommended resources:

 

“On The Incarnation Of The Word Of God” by Saint Athanasius
“Stricken by God?” by Brad Jersak and Michael Hardin
“The Jesus Driven Life” by Michael Hardin
“A New Kind of Christianity” by Brian McLaren
“Jesus and the Undoing of Adam” by C. Baxter Kruger
“Parable of the Dancing God” by C. Baxter Kruger
“Kingdom, Grace, Judgment: Paradox, Outrage, and Vindication in the Parables of Jesus” by Robert Farrar Capon
“Razing Hell” by Sharon Baker

 

Soundtrack: “Fleeting Scenes” by ADG3 Studios (Adrien Gardiner)

 

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15 Apr Does Sin SEPARATE You From God? | Challenging Penal Substitution | Joshua Tongol

 

Does sin SEPARATE you from God? Is there a great chasm dividing humanity and God because of sin? Is there something a person must do in order to remove this separation?

 

Many Christians have been taught that sin separates us from God. In fact, when some people share the Gospel (GOOD NEWS), they begin with the idea of man being separated from God first. But is this where one should begin?

 

Moreover, this whole idea of “separation” is one of the building blocks of the Evangelical penal substitutionary theory.

 

Problems with SEPARATION?

 

-It’s not Christian
-Rooted in pagan dualism and not the Scriptures
-Has caused many Christians to suffer mentally and emotionally
-Denies the purpose of the incarnation and the finished work of Jesus Christ

 

Recommended resources:

 

“Stricken by God?” by Brad Jersak and Michael Hardin
“The Jesus Driven Life” by Michael Hardin
“A New Kind of Christianity” by Brian McLaren
“Jesus and the Undoing of Adam” by C. Baxter Kruger
“Parable of the Dancing God” by C. Baxter Kruger
“Kingdom, Grace, Judgment: Paradox, Outrage, and Vindication in the Parables of Jesus” by Robert Farrar Capon
“Razing Hell” by Sharon Baker

 

Soundtrack: “Perpetual Tranquility loop” by Trix-Music

 

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22 Mar Was Jesus PUNISHED by the Father? | Challenging Penal Substitution | Joshua Tongol

 

What is wrong with the EVANGELICAL GOSPEL? Penal substitutionary theory is at the heart of the evangelical gospel. BUT what if it is WRONG?

 

Why does it matter? Our understanding of the Cross shapes our understanding of how we view God. And how we view God shapes the way we live.

 

Problems with penal substitution:

 

-Divides the Trinity
-Distorts forgiveness
-Contradicts the life and teachings of Jesus Christ
-Misunderstands justice
-Never found in parabolic form

 

Recommended resources:

 

“Stricken by God?” by Brad Jersak and Michael Hardin
“The Jesus Driven Life” by Michael Hardin
“A New Kind of Christianity” by Brian McLaren
“Jesus and the Undoing of Adam” by C. Baxter Kruger
“Razing Hell” by Sharon Baker

 

Soundtrack: “Ambient Night” by Eugene Serov (SZ Music)

 

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